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Messenger: CarterBlunt Sent: 7/11/2020 6:58:24 AM
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"Men oppressed by who? By women?"
By nature. It's an oppressive world. Men didn't force women into their biological form. In a majority of cases, we tried to be moral. We did our best to survive. Feminists act like for men, everything came to us easy, wheras for women, everything was hard work... when we tried our hardest to make sure the opposite was true. If you go back into the '40s, some of the examples are insane. Throwing your jacket onto a puddle so women can stomp on it. All the men standing up from their dinner when a woman goes to take a shit. Opening doors, pulling out chairs, giving up their seats. Not really the image that comes to mind when I think, "oppression". If you wanna go to Islamic extremist areas or something for examples, ok. That's different.

"How many women are in a position to oppress and marginalize men?"
All the women responsible for my development in early childhood were oppressive cunts, so quite a few. My mom used to scream in my ear on the drive to school. My teachers singled me out to make an example. They pick winners and losers. Popular girls jerked me around for an ego boost. And that was just elementary school. I was already neurotic as hell. Men didn't do that to me. I'm sure you can repeat the same with any incel or mgtow loser.

"Yes, I don't think you'd react the same to another man calling you 'honey' or 'sweetie' either."
I would probably assume he was gay and had female mentors, otherwise I would take it as the passive aggressive whining of a woman. It would come across awkward, but it comes across awkward to me when women do it. I'll be thinking, "Do I really come across as 'sweet'?" or, "Does she mean 'baby' like we're intimate already?" or, "I'm glad we had syrup for this waffle, I didn't want honey." It's especially weird when they're a complete stranger pouring on combinations of them. But that's just how some people are. I just assume it means I'm in good standing, and continue about my day. I don't automatically assume the meaning of my first gut reaction.

"I just want you to see the double standard and that gender roles shouldn't be defined by whatever it is we think a gender is 'best at'."
I thought I was defining it by what a gender is factually best at, with certain exceptions. Everyone is impressed by those exceptions. At least, when it's a woman doing manly stuff. When it's a man doing nurturing stuff, no one is that impressed. By the way, I posted a video of a female bodybuilder earlier, I'm sure there is more you disagreed with in that post, if you didn't see it.

I'm attracted to the extreme feminine, so those types are the most relevant to my dating situation. I'm not gonna be accepting any responsibility whatsoever for a typical skydiver chick, like I see in my preferred work environment. I wouldn't even try. I consider them unruly. xD I just treat them as men with vaginas, that's appropriate for them. They even have the sex drive of a man, which I can work with. They AREN'T MOST WOMEN.

I agree the most competent should lead, and I don't believe I have contradicted that. We are doing a lot of back and forth based on interpretations. I tried to be clear with what I meant, but you did a lot of reading into what was never said. When I "strawman" you, I'm just following your own logic to its absurd conclusion. At what point did you extrapolate "men generally have a higher capacity for authority" into "no woman should ever have freedom"? That was never the argument. I'm a big fan of self-determination. If a woman isn't satisfied with my standards, she can be free as a bird elsewhere.

"Giving people freedom is important in leadership."
Giving people limits is important in leadership. I'm not sure what freedom has to do with it. Freedom is just what you already start with. You don't need leadership to enforce chaos. I get what you're saying about dependency, but it shouldn't apply to your principles. I would be very corruptible, unable to sacrifice anything, if not for being dependent on principles.

"Executing someone is ALL bad"
Your principles are so wishy washy, and inapplicable to any situation where Babylon isn't omnipresent and omnibenevolent. It's quite delusional. Yes, sometimes there is no choice but to execute an adversary. That's normal 3rd world shit. They will fertilize the soil and grow something better than the shit they created when they were alive. It's a net positive.

Is this even your own thoughts? Maybe you are just playing "devil's advocate" and talking out of both sides of your mouth, like a black lesbian version of Sam Harris. I came into this thinking I was debating a man. I don't even know whose views I'm debating. I'm not like Socrates, just debating to debate. I gotta keep my shit 100. Any time I get a sense of dishonesty in a normal discussion, I go full attack mode.

Like how you keep doing "not all women", when no one ever implied "all women". It's such a fake argument. In order to actually disprove me, you would need to demonstrate equality across the board, so instead of trying that, you strawman. That's not what I did at all. When you pull that accusation, you are just saying you shouldn't be held accountable for your vague statements. I'm not responsible for reading your mind, you are responsible for being clear.

"In other words, why feel the need to go out of your way to lead other people who have their own leader who is responsible for them?"
Because most people are incompetent idiots who have no clue what direction they're going. People don't always like what I have to say about their beliefs, but no harm trying, and I would rather speak up and be corrected than not try to identify the issues at all. I would hope if I'm being an asshole, people will put me in my place too.

"So there is a space between good and evil."
I guess to me, "good" is pretty neutral. If something works, it's good enough to be good. People don't have to be laughing 100% of the time for things to be good, that would actually be creepy. If I were to say you need to be altruistic towards your adversaries, that would mean you need to hurt yourself on their behalf. It would take a self-mutilation supporter like Jesus to say something like that.

"But I sacrificed her feelings for the sake of being a good neighbor."

When I think "drug addict", the first thing that comes into my mind isn't "harmless". That's a red flag right there, but ok.

A bum(like me) has to take accountability for their situation, not be expecting handouts and giving nothing in return. That's putting accountability where it belongs. If he kept coming to me, he better come offering to do some chores, errands, teaching yoga, SOMETHING. Not just have me being a servant. I bet if he washed the wife's car, she wouldn't say shit. I hope he at least offered.

But yeah, if she was plagued by anxiety from it, that is obviously not good. I don't see any question there. And giving handouts to someone destroying themselves is essentially rewarding dysfunctional behavior. I think I would handle it differently, but I don't know your relationship to him. The wife sounds unstable, this I've already determined.


Messenger: Black Christ in Flesh Sent: 7/12/2020 11:29:42 PM
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No matter your long speeches, my logistics remain firm. An adulterous woman have big fat bottom and hourglass curves, while a virtuous woman doesn't evolve to be carnally seductive, remaining either slim, or be fat and sexy. (lesbians don't evolve too because they're braindead.) and nasty folk with aids can't put on body mass. Adulterous men are arrogant, violent and full of cunning and mischief.


Messenger: CarterBlunt Sent: 7/13/2020 3:59:20 AM
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I assume you are a troll, but I found your skill of using redundant adjectives inspiring, and also your ability to switch seamlessly between booty, batty, and butty. Quite impressive.


Messenger: Black Christ in Flesh Sent: 7/13/2020 4:04:32 AM
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comment on my other post


Messenger: Black Christ in Flesh Sent: 7/13/2020 4:09:20 AM
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demons have many means of entering the human sex organ besides casual sex. Masturbation, or addictive self stimulus also causes a gap in your space for negative evergy to enter and evolve. Demons can otherwise enter the human as a whole through witchcraft, or bowing to artificial gods, which each have a demon over them.


Messenger: Black Christ in Flesh Sent: 7/13/2020 4:36:46 AM
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so warn yall kids masturbating foolishly to porn, ya'll will have demons enter your belly and do what they want to your system. so eating ass is the worst kind of demon. Not to mention violent homosexuality and imposed law.


Messenger: CarterBlunt Sent: 7/13/2020 7:43:26 AM
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You know, I talk about incels regularly, and have a cruel habit of insulting them, but this new "black pill" variety of incel have completely given up, and are just waiting for their turn to die. It's OVER for them. Imagine how badly you have to be treated by women to get to that point.


Messenger: IPXninja Sent: 7/13/2020 9:29:07 AM
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Carter: when we tried our hardest to make sure the opposite was true. If you go back into the '40s, some of the examples are insane. Throwing your jacket onto a puddle so women can stomp on it.

So you think opening doors for women is anywhere close to the same value of property and voting rights? Being a gentleman isn't that big a deal. I open doors for my girlfriend. Once she gets in the car she usually opens my door for me. She brings me drinks. She makes plates for me. Etc. I don't have to ask. It's easy to make an argument where you see what the male does to go out of his way, but did you see and give equal weight to all the things women had to go through during that same time period and all the things they did for men?

Carter: All the women responsible for my development in early childhood were oppressive cunts, so quite a few. My mom used to scream in my ear on the drive to school.

That sucks and I don't want to downplay what happened to you, but even if your experience fits a textbook definition in your view I wouldn't call that "oppression". Many people, males and females, can attest to bad childhoods; getting picked on, etc. Even bullies often get picked on and that's why they become bullies. Childhood is full of obstacles and social situations that we have to adapt to and learn from. I wish I could go back in time and coach my younger self but no such luck. Rather, it's how we react and respond to negative events that help to define who we are and who we will become. "Incels" tend to be socially awkward and never grow out it or see that they don't have to be that same scared kid that was picked on. Typically, there is a girl who was probably around that thought they were cute and they never knew about it because she didn't say anything.

Not to get off track but incels and mgtow or whatever are much like homosexuals in that they often buy into an IDENTITY fed by fear or prejudice. The labels get created and people jump into those boxes until they become proud to be in the box because they're not alone in that box. When you buy into an identity you WILL commit to thoughts and behaviors that WILL reinforce the premise; reinforce that identity. For incels they tend to give up, having never taken appropriate steps to find the right girl for them such that they morph into and become the WRONG man for literally EVERY WOMAN. Their negative opinions about women form into a barrier that keep women away like insect repellent. Any woman who might have found them attractive is immediately repulsed by their attitude and expectations. They don't treat them like people. They treat women like props who owe them something. That's not how society works though. That is the ultimate in "male privilege" thinking. Just because you see it in society doesn't mean women have to date you. Attraction is natural instinct. The less of a man you are the fewer women will find you attractive. But they don't define "man" by the same standard that incels think. They subconsciously think of their fathers who actually loved and protected them. When a father treats his daughter like his little princess that's what makes them look for a king.

Carter: "Do I really come across as 'sweet'?" or, "Does she mean 'baby' like we're intimate already?" or, "I'm glad we had syrup for this waffle, I didn't want honey." It's especially weird when they're a complete stranger pouring on combinations of them.

Wow... I certainly don't envy you. It must be hard overthinking situations and ignoring the most obvious influential factors; that it is simply their local customs and culture that they have been socialized into. When these words are that they use for EVERYONE (males and females) you have to take "I" (yourself) out of it and understand that it isn't about you. In their custom it is a polite thing but more than likely it originated from sexist men calling female strangers honey and sweeting as a more polite form of cat calling that was sometimes accompanied with a slap on the rear.


Carter: I thought I was defining it by what a gender is factually best at, with certain exceptions. Everyone is impressed by those exceptions.

No, you weren't. If you were then you would say that men should be the ones cooking for their family. And I would also add cleaning to that because men have more "elbow grease" so it would be more efficient in most cases for men to do the cleaning. But this is clearly not how gender roles are ever assigned.

Carter: By the way, I posted a video of a female bodybuilder earlier, I'm sure there is more you disagreed with in that post, if you didn't see it.

I didn't see it but I support women doing whatever they want. However, I'm personally not very attracted to muscular females. That's a personal preference. I like more feminine appearance. And that's okay because there plenty of dudes who look pretty and have a more feminine appearance without being effiminate. We're all allowed to do things that some people don't like. Because no matter what you do there will always be some people who don't like it anyway.

Carter: They even have the sex drive of a man

Female sex drive tends to change over time. I don't really think there's any masculinity you can infer from it. More feminine women are simply more adept at hiding their drive from men the same way that they hid their attraction until the guy made the first move.

Carter: If a woman isn't satisfied with my standards, she can be free as a bird elsewhere.

Seemed like you were speaking broadly and in general; talking about men (broadly, generally) being X and women being Y.

Carter: Giving people limits is important in leadership. I'm not sure what freedom has to do with it. Freedom is just what you already start with. You don't need leadership to enforce chaos.

Dictators and wannabe gods tend to feel that way but people have a need to be free. There is always chaos. Chaos leads to order and order to chaos. What leaders need to do is balance these two forces so that people aren't using their freedom to negatively impact the freedoms of others. But this isn't simply done by force or by yelling at your kid on the way to school. It's done by being that example. When you "lead" you litterally are the first one to do it. You are the first one to go out in front. Others simply FOLLOW. People choose to follow because they like and agree where you are going. If you are going off a cliff they will only follow if they are indoctrinated sheep. Only a bad leader should ever want that because a good leader wants what's best for those he leads.

For example... Trump just now wearing a mask and talking about how the virus is a hoax, that litterally cost people their lives because they wanted to follow him and they thought he was leading them in the right direction.

Carter: Your principles are so wishy washy, and inapplicable to any situation where Babylon isn't omnipresent and omnibenevolent. It's quite delusional. Yes, sometimes there is no choice but to execute an adversary.

There are plenty of states in which there is no death penalty. As far as enemy combatants, unless you also murder their whole family they still pose a threat because you are creating martyrs and helping your enemy to recruit more people. This is why wars are often perpetual. Christians and Muslims have been fighting for over a thousand years. If you face a foe on the battlefield and you kill them in self defense that's one thing. But executing them is something else entirely.


Let me give you an example of what you said. Please note, you never made any attempt to limit who you were talking about to "some". In my interpretation you were always saying "all" or "most". Example incoming.

Carter (7/4/20): Women demanded all this supposed equality, men gave them permission, so what did women do with it?

Were you talking about "some" women here? I apologize if I got you wrong but this seemed to be the argument you were making.

Carter (7/4/20): But they make many sacrifices that most women aren't willing to make, such as working long hours, not having a relationship, never having kids. Equally capable is laughable.

You literally said "most women". So why wouldn't I think you were talking about "most women" the whole time. I went back randomly to find this post. It wasn't even like I had to hunt for it. If you didn't mean "most women" you should have clarified.

Carter: Because most people are incompetent idiots who have no clue what direction they're going.

That doesn't make it your job to take theirs. If I hear one of the customer service people at my job handling a situation poorly, that doesn't give me the right to take over. You have to stay in your own lane.

Carter: I would hope if I'm being an asshole, people will put me in my place too.

I appreciate this about you. You're honest and honesty is (usually) good.

Carter: It would take a self-mutilation supporter like Jesus to say something like that.

Yeshua wasn't like that. His disciples were armed. So the idea that he was completely passive is a myth. He also didn't try to lead people who didn't want to follow. The way he got people to follow was by teaching good values; teaching love. Love your enemies, bless them that curse you. That doesn't mean you have to buy them flowers. It just means that you should treat them how you want to be treated. I wish more people had recognized your value during your developmental years, and given you more positive encouragement and love. I wish you had been treated with more fairness and equity. Because that wasn't your experience I feel like your path was altered as a result. Such things have a tendency to push us towards extremes. But the answer to all these things, is balance.

Incels (not talking about you) often don't realize when they're using their perceived mistreatment by women to actually mistreat women. And then women react to that mistreatment and learn to keep their distance. But if the same behavior caused distance in the man then why wouldn't it do the same with the woman?

Carter: When I think "drug addict", the first thing that comes into my mind isn't "harmless". That's a red flag right there, but ok.

Drug addicts are people too and addiction is a sickness. If a person has cancer we feel sympathy towards them. No one thinks a person with cancer is going to rape them because they have cancer. Because drug use is criminalized drug addicts are often viewed as criminals when most of them probably started using because of legal pain killers. When people use alcohol for the same reasons people don't automatically fear being murdered by that person or think that person might be a pedophile. Doing harm to yourself isn't the same as doing or having the capacity to do harm to others.

Carter: If he kept coming to me, he better come offering to do some chores, errands, teaching yoga, SOMETHING.

I'm confused. Weren't you talking about how a good leader should help other people? If they have to work for it then how does that count as helping?

Carter: But yeah, if she was plagued by anxiety from it, that is obviously not good. I don't see any question there. And giving handouts to someone destroying themselves is essentially rewarding dysfunctional behavior. I think I would handle it differently, but I don't know your relationship to him. The wife sounds unstable, this I've already determined.

She herself gave him a ride when I wasn't there. She herself let him into the house before when I wasn't there. So it was hard for me to understand her sudden concern for her and the children's safety. But again, people do not always need to be logical. Fear often isn't.


Messenger: Black Christ in Flesh Sent: 7/13/2020 10:21:56 AM
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Incels... lmao. my girl is a virgin. I'd boast of that here.

Besides, if you knew who brought forth humanity as a whole, you wouldn't be saying a word, because out of one come many; but now I'll leave you to your misguided, unfounded chatter and blabberings.


Messenger: Black Christ in Flesh Sent: 7/13/2020 10:35:23 AM
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Gwaan tell I to stop hating women and labelling them names, you stop hating men and labelling them names.


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