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Messenger: Eleazar Sent: 10/27/2018 11:11:47 AM
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Hemphill,

Your Reasonings are so repetitive and the cycle of argument between you and Nesta won't bear any fruit. If you really want to promote Trump and his babylonian message there are other platforms that would be better than this website.


Messenger: Nesta1 Sent: 10/27/2018 12:16:39 PM
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Hemphill,
More strawman creations**, name-calling, and extolling violence. You seem to be choosing to exemplify the worst of the generalizations that liberal media make about Trump's base. I&i would think that you would want to at least pretend to be on a more rational plain. After all, we RastafarI are people of peace.

**(e.g., expressing outrage at false attributes that you’ve imagined & imputed to your opponent)

i cannot help but conclude that you are a very lonely person with extremely low self esteem who spends time posting provocations on a website which is intended to be a forum for sharing reasoning on JAH RastafarI, His Majesty's Teachings and our RastafarI values and lifestyles. Continually dragging in Babylon politics for the purpose of inciting conflict obviously stimulates the dopamine release in you which has been documented by a number of researchers studying the effects of the internet & social media on the brain. The addictive behavior and pleasure associated therewith of repeating your provocations & reacting with confrontation over & over appears to be your primary motive for being here on a website where you know that Trump and his vile ideology are anathema to we RastafarI. You must know intellectually that you're not convincing anyone of anything. It's an otherwise unreceptive audience here, Hemp, so at least give me some credit for playing along and humoring you while fueling your dopamine buzz.


Messenger: Hemphill Sent: 10/27/2018 12:46:43 PM
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What babylonian message Eleazar?.. Show me, factually.. Do you not see that the entire babylon structure is vehemently against Trump and his pro-American message? Do you not see that the entire establishment is against America taking the next step into realizing fully the freedoms promised? Do you not see that many other countries from Brazil to Iran to Italy and others have adopted the model of securing national interst instead of global governance? Where is your evidence that Trump is pushing for the NWO plan? If you are going to jump in here and suggest that I leave because I am factually wrong than this should be easy for you! I'll wait......


I have said many times here that "you dont have to like Trump, you dont have to support him, but if you HATE him you are following along with the mainstream babylon media and mindless culture"

Nesta. You think Black people are stupid for supporting Trump. You're a racist control freak who condemns those who dont think like you. You cant take that back. You said that. I will not forget. You insult my wife and millions of other Black people who dare make their own decisions.


Messenger: Nesta1 Sent: 10/27/2018 12:59:32 PM
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Actually, if you go back and re-read what i actually wrote you'll find that i said nothing of the sort. Once again, you create a strawman to lash out at.

"Emancipate yourself from mental slavery"


Messenger: Hemphill Sent: 10/27/2018 1:07:07 PM
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Within the context of speaking about Black Conservatives meeting Trump at the White House you say: "They're just plain stupid and actually believe Trump's claims"

Copy and paste is a bitch huh?


Messenger: Nesta1 Sent: 10/27/2018 1:17:22 PM
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Deliberately removed from its context, Hemp. Come on. That's the kind of stuff CNN and other MSM do. Bereft of intellectual honesty.
i don't have much use for your ideology, but you can do better than using such cheap, deceptive tactics.


Messenger: Hemphill Sent: 10/27/2018 1:20:42 PM
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Not out of context at all. Look at this weasel squirm! You said: "i can't figure out if people are feigning the belief that the president embraces all races equally or if they're just in denial (i suppose a third possibility is that they're just plain stupid and actually believe Trump's claims)." gave 3 possibilities and none of them being that YOU ARE WRONG!

1: they might somehow believe him
2: they're in denial
3: just plain stupid


Messenger: Nesta1 Sent: 10/27/2018 1:50:47 PM
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So how does this work for you, Hemphill? You are imputing to me intent and meaning that was not contained in my comment. i can clearly see that. i assume any other objective observer can see that also. So what do you hope to accomplish by this display? To try to convince me that i said something that i didn't or that i meant something that i didn't? Such behavior borders on the obsessive or paranoid.

Trump's attitudes toward notions of human equality and mutual respect among all humans are as transparent as can be. His elliptical style of speech masks nothing and really serves more to mock his opponents than to fool them. Trump panders to people of a certain stripe and is more than happy to fan the flames of their negative biases for his own political gain. He knows that (heck, it's his strategy) and it's perfectly apparent to people in every corner of the globe. Trump himself doesn't really seem to have a problem with what he is although he often sort of half-heartedly & disingenuously denies it.

I'm happy to help you get your dopamine rushes here, but let's at least be intellectually honest with what were talking about and not engage in sophistry.

My mom is not a stupid person at all but she's in denial about a lot of the realities of the world and prominent public figures these days, including Mr. Trump. She's not a disingenuous person, but many other people do play such games. Some people are gullible and sincerely do not see what is completely obvious to most everyone else. i'm making no judgment of a specific person's proclivities in this respect; except for my mom because i know her. She's can't handle the truth so she just lets filter in the facts that suit her and screens out the rest. It doesn't make her a stupid woman and she's certainly not a bad person. She's only partially aware of the depth of her denial in some cases, but for the most part she is unaware of it.


Messenger: Hemphill Sent: 10/27/2018 2:41:14 PM
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You cant squrim out of this one.. You know what you said. Now you are trying to say that you didnt say what you clearly said. I will clear this up for anyone who may be confused about what you said..

I posted how Trump just invited the Black Conservative Leadership group to the White House. I embedded the full video and if you were to watch it, you would clearly see a room FULL of young Black people ecstatic about being there with Trump. In response, Nesta1 goes on to admit that he cannot even watch the video -- then wants to talk about intellectual consistency.. Nesta1 then goes on to give his best estimation as how Black people would ever consider being a Trump supporter. The first explanation is that they just want to rebel.. Then he guesses there are only 3 possibilities as to how they could believe Trump is impartial towards race. -- Because the entire oppostion argument from the first reply to now has been that Trump is obviously racist. That is the foundation of the anti-Trump sentiment. So then every sub-argument must be made to strengthen this 'fact'.. Recanting is impossible for these people -- Out of the 3 possibilities he gives to maintain his position, none of them are that he could potentially be wrong about Trump being racist.. Instead, he suggests that Black Trump supporters 1: Pretend -- 'feigning' as he puts it -- that Trump is not racist. 2: They are in denial that Trump is racist. 3: They are just plain stupid.. Again; never did he admit that within the realm of possibilities, he could be wrong about the cornerstone racism claim of the anti-Trump sentiment. Instead he goes on to insult the validity and quality of the intellectual capacity of Black Trump supporters.. This highlights an extreme superiority complex and shows how the 'moral high ground' facade falls flat when exposed to facts. Now that Nesta1 tries to deflect and deny saying these things, we can see that he truly is projecting his own qualities onto his opponent.. I am not going to pretend to be able to psychologically diagnose someone, nor am I trying to. I simply recognize this twisted mentality everyday within the Politically Correct cultural narrative. Trying to be non-offensive and 'tolerant' yet are proven to be the most biased and hateful people.. This mentality has been accepted and pushed within the democrat, liberal, or 'progressive' sphere. The democratic party fought the civil war to keep slaves. They created the KKK and Jim Crowe laws. They resisted civil rights then flipped laungue to capture the 'Black vote' -- see LBJ letters --... These types of people, voting democrats or not, always flip and project their deeds onto their opponents. Hence the Trump situation today.. The liberals project racism onto 'the right' and especially Trump to deflect from their own ambitions.. If you dont believe me, look at how the bleeding heart liberal -- Don Lemon -- will treat Black people when they are no longer fooled by the PC language and democrat mentality -- Kanye West..

Nesta1 will not fool anyone, as I will not let this be forgotten because in doing all of the above, ^^ he insulted my Wife.


Messenger: Nesta1 Sent: 10/28/2018 8:36:03 AM
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Hemphill,

Like your professed political idol Donald Trump, it appears that you are obsessed with “winning”, and fail to recognize (or acknowledge) that this forum is a presentation of ideas, not some type of competition or zero sum game. If you insist on re-casting everything i write into your own misinterpretations, then this little back and forth has become too tedious and annoying to pursue. i’ll let my own words, not your misinterpretations thereof, stand for themselves so i have no reason to ‘squirm’ or be uncomfortable with the positions which i have articulated. i think we’ve come to our denouement here so i’ll offer my closing comments. First, let’s go to the brass tacks about Donald Trump.

It is a demonstrable fact that Donald Trump is a compulsive liar who invents whatever he feels like at any particular moment to fit his oration. In this respect, he’s much worse than presidents like Obama, Bush or Clinton, who, while also lying profusely, did so in a much more carefully-scripted, pre-meditated manner. (Frankly, Obama’s incessant lying drove me crazy and i did not think he could be outdone, but then life surprises us.) Many of the lies in Donald Trump’s litany of untruths are so patently absurd as to be laughable (and people do laugh).

That Donald Trump panders to the racist sentiment of a significant cohort of the U.S. population, and has the solid backing of professed racists and white supremacists is not a matter of opinion, conjecture or speculation; it’s a simple matter of fact which is readily apparent to, and acknowledged by, observers throughout the world, and even studied by political scientists. Heck, I know Aussies here who are quite proud of their own racism and love Donald Trump because he’s “their man” finally standing up for white supremacy. Nobody told them to think that; they just heard it in his words and saw it in his actions.

Splitting hairs as to whether a politician who condones racism among his constituents, with a wink and a nod through scapegoating diatribes, is REALLY A RACIST himself or just a politician CAPITALIZING ON RACISM, is an irrelevant nuance - he’s promoting it and fueling it so he might as well be one because -- even if he’s not and he’s only doing it for political gain -- the end result is the same : a more racist and divisive social environment. Donald Trump’s denials of harboring any racist or white supremacist sentiment are tongue-and-cheek at best –- he’s established a racist persona for himself throughout the world and if that really concerned him he’d do a lot more to try dispel that image. He’s obviously quite comfortable with it.

Given the forgoing, I think it’s a charitable analysis to conclude that many of Donald Trump’s followers are simply in denial. They want to find hope in the hopeless Babylonian political system and simply refuse to accept the fact that Trump serves the same masters as every other president (i.e., that he could not be serving as the president of the U.S. without receiving the blessing of the Babylon System and its elite controllers). Donald Trump is doing that elite’s bidding like the rest of the politicians, and it is sheer folly to think that satan’s minions at the helm of the Babylon System somehow woke up one day and said, “oh, damn, the People of America pulled a fast one on us and elected a guy who’s working against us so now we’ve got big problems!” Make no mistake, the Babylon System can DESTROY any human at any time (save One: His Majesty). No one, repeat, NO ONE attains high political office without the nod of concurrence coming from satan’s elite minions at the helm of the Babylon System. So naturally Donald Trump uses the tools of the devil -- he sows the seeds of racial divisiveness, and seeks to legitimize an arrogant rejection of social justice and charity toward the less fortunate among us.

Why would people embrace and advocate for a man like Donald Trump, who even a child can see is a megalomaniac and compulsive liar? i offer the charitable explanation that many people are just so desperate for hope in the cesspool that America has become that they immerse themselves in denial as to the man’s true nature. Personally, I pray that those in denial constitute the vast majority of his supporters and that only a small minority of them are those who are pretending not to see his malignant nature or are not intelligent enough to recognize it. Of course, there’s also the sad subset that says: “Sure, Trump’s an asshole, but so am I; it’s nice to finally be able to come out of the closet and proudly proclaim it.” Unfortunately, i know some guys like that also.

i am a RastafarI and have joyously professed my allegiance to His Majesty ever since the 1970s. I&i can state this with confidence: there are NO POLITICIANS working through the machinery of the Babylon System who are going to give us salvation, free the captives, lift the downpressed out of their repression and poverty, and force those guilty of crimes against humanity to face justice. His Majesty’s Power, which is Mighty and Awesome -- and easily capable of giving us JAH Victory again and again -- is not given to politicians or billionaires, but to the meek, the poor, the victims and the sufferers.

IN THE NAME OF HIS IMPERIAL MAJESTY JAH RASTAFARI



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