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a passage from the so called prophet, Marcus Garvey

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Messenger: NegusNegas Sent: 2/19/2005 11:39:29 AM

Posted Tuesday, May 27, 2003

Editorial by Marcus Garvey in the Black Man - London, March/April 1937


When the facts of history are written Haile Selassie of Abyssinia will go down as a great coward who ran away from his country to save his skin and left the millions of his countrymen to struggle through a terrible war that he brought upon them because of his political ignorance and his racial disloyalty.

It is a pity that a man of the limited intellectual calibre and weak political character like Haile Selassie became Emperor of Abyssinia at so crucial a time in the political history of the world. Unfortunately, Abyssinia lost the controlling influence of a political personality of patriotic racial character like the late Menelik, whose loyalty to his race and devotion to his country excelled all his other qualities, to the extent that he was able to use that very strength to continuously safeguard the interests of the Ethiopian Empire. What he did so well to preserve, a cringing, white slave hero worshipper, visionless and disloyal to his country, threw away. This is the impression the serious minded political student forms of the conduct of the ex-Emperor of Abyssinia.


Every Negro who is proud of his race must be ashamed of the way in which Haile Selassie surrendered himself to the white wolves of Europe. These statements may be considered very severe, and in fact, they are. We could have been otherwise apologetic and sympathetic, but that would have been only if we were dealing with a Coptic Priest or a Religious Monk and not a[n] Emperor who held and presided over the political trust of twelve million people of his own country, and the political destiny of the entire Negro race. This little misguided Emperor could not realise that he held in his hands the political trust of the hundreds of millions of Negroes of the world, men and women, who were looking up toward the firm establishment of political sovereignty, and that Ethiopia, like Liberia and Haiti were to them prizes of glory to be perpetuated and strengthened in the maintenance of the dignity of that black race that other men have claimed to be incompetent, inferior and unworthy, which every black man must disprove.


When the war started in Abyssinia all Negro nationalists looked with hope to Haile Selassie. They spoke for him, they prayed for him, they sung for him, they did everything to hold up his hands, as Aaron did for Moses; but whilst the Negro peoples of the world were praying for the success of Abyssinia this little Emperor was undermining the fabric of his own kingdom by playing the fool with white men, having them advising him[,] having them telling him what to do, how to surrender, how to call off the successful thrusts of his Rases against the Italian invaders. Yes, they were telling him how to prepare his flight, and like an imbecilic child he followed every advice and then ultimately ran away from his country to England, leaving his people to be massacred by the Italians, and leaving the serious white world to laugh at every Negro and repeat the charge and snare - "he is incompetent," "we told you so." Indeed Haile Selassie has proved the incompetence of the Negro for political authority, but thank God there are Negroes who realise that Haile Selassie did not represent the truest qualities of the Negro race. How could he, when he wanted to play white? how could he, when he surrounded himself with white influence? how could he, when in a modem world, and in a progressive civilization, he preferred a slave State of black men than a free democratic country where the black citizens could rise to the same opportunities as white citizens in their democracies?


The truth must be told so that the white world will realise that it was not the pride of the Negro that surrendered in Abyssinia. It was the disloyalty of a single man who was too silly to take pride in his race, who played such a game as to disgrace the political integrity of a noble people. The Negroes of Abyssinia and of the world are satisfied however that Abyssinia was not conquered by Italy and the European forces of Mussolini. Abyssinia was only conquered by the black levies of Italy. The Askaris have really been the victors in Abyssinia. [Rodolfo] Graziani only marched into Addis Ababa after he had made sure of the advanced guard of the Askaris. Every battle that the Italians won in Abyssinia resulted from the advanced charge of the Askaris. It was black men fighting black men, and this was made possible in Abyssinia because the regime of Haile Selassie had given a bad taste to the mouth, not only of the blacks of Abyssinia but of those of the surrounding territories. They felt that they had a cause against the Amharic white loving Emperor who liked to chain and flog black men, and whose brutality to them gave Mussolini the cause to fool the world that he was bestowing a blessing upon the people of Abyssinia by freeing them.


It was a piece of impertinence to suggest that black men should be held as slaves. We must admit that we glorified Haile Selassie when the war started, fought his battles to win international support, but we ever felt deep down in our hearts that he was a slave master. We had hoped that if Abyssinia had won that we would have forced the Government of Abyssinia to free the black whom they held as slaves. We would have preferred this than seeing the country taken by Mussolini or any European power; but now that the country is temporarily lost and the Emperor has cowardly exiled himself, the truth must be told.


The future freedom of Abyssinia must be built upon the highest principles of democracy. That is why it is preferable for the Abyssinian Negroes and the Negroes of the world to work for the restoration and freedom of the country without the assistance of Haile Selassie, because at best he is but a slave master. The Negroes of the Western World whose forefathers suffered for three hundred years under the terrors of slavery ought to be able to appreciate what freedom means. Surely they cannot feel justified in supporting any system that would hold their brothers in slavery in another country whilst they are enjoying the benefits of freedom elsewhere. The Africans who are free can also appreciate the position of slaves in Abyssinia. What right has the Emperor to keep slaves when all the democratic sections of the world were free, when men had the right to live, to develop, to expand, to enjoy all the benefits of human liberty[?]
The Emperor who has been exiled in Europe must have seen the civilization of Europe. In England where he lives he sees that men are not flogged and chained and kicked because of their colour or because of their condition, but where true human liberty guarantees to every man the happiest pursuit he can bring to himself. It has been reported that he is leaving England for Syria, where a large number of Abyssinian refugees are living. There is an interpretation that the decision to leave England and to live among "his people?" in Syria is to perpetuate his divine majesty in the presence of that king worship that he doesn't get in England, where men look at others as equals and not as masters by divine right. In truth, the Emperor is out of place in democratic England. He wants to be once more in the environment of the feudal Monarch who looks down upon his slaves and serfs with contempt. Except he changes the attitude of thinking himself better than the Negro who constitutes the larger number of Ethiopia and profit by the experience he has gained, he should not be a fit person to be in authority in the very country in which he was born. After all, Haile Selassie is just an ordinary man like any other human being. What right has he to hold men as slaves? It is only the misfortune of the slaves that causes him to be a slave master. Negroes who have the dignity of their race at heart resent the impertinence of anyone holding the blacks as slaves. Haile Selassie ought to realise this and abolish his foolish dream of being an Emperor of slaves and serfs and try to be an Emperor of noble men, and for him to be that he must himself be the noblest of them all. He hasn't proved his nobility in the war between Italy and Abyssinia. Ras Desta proved to be the Lord, the Nobleman of Ethiopia whilst Halle Selassie proved a cringing coward!

Messenger: Doctor Binghi Sent: 2/19/2005 12:13:27 PM

words of ignorance

Messenger: NegusNegas Sent: 2/19/2005 12:18:18 PM

you call it "words of ignorance", these same words came from the same guy quoted as saying, "look towards the east and ethiopia shall stretch her hands unto god". when he said those words he was called a Prophet....when he made this speech, he is called ignorant. that's double standard if you ask me. you praise marcus garvey for making a vague statement and you refer that statement to haile selassie as being god, you even go as far as calling him a prophet for that statement he made but when that same guy (marcus garvey) says something condemning haile selassie, you call him ignorant. sounds like what people been doing for years when it came to defending their faith, which is glorify the positive and reproach the negative. i bet if he was glorifying selassie in this passage you would agree with him and cheer him on.......BE TRUE TO YOURSELF

Messenger: Doctor Binghi Sent: 2/19/2005 12:37:44 PM

True I, I would. I and I am not here to argue. I know my King, and consider anything negative said about Him to be ignorant, I would be hypocritical to not... You get me, bredren? We all have opinions and beliefs, and many times they clash, this is the cause of war. I will always hail the King, and anyone who speaks negative of my King, I will speak nagatively of. This is just my nature. I and I mean no disrespect to people who don't agree with my views, but if someone says something disrespectful of my King, I will react, it's only human. Hail Jah, seek Him, we will find truth, brotherman.

Love and Respect. Selassie I

Messenger: SisMenenI Sent: 2/19/2005 1:11:50 PM

Marcus Garvey is a prophet, give thanks for his reasonings as he teaches much positive for the people. InI do not hail Marcus as the Almighty Jah. He achieved great things and had very good organization which InI can all look to and learn from. It is too bad he didn't recognize the Almighty that he had given prophecy of, although InI give thanks he pointed to Ethiopia still.

Marcus Garvey a prophet.
For those who have ears to hear and eyes to see; Haile Sellassie I the KING.

Blessed Love

Messenger: Doctor Binghi Sent: 2/19/2005 1:14:55 PM

True I Sis, True I

Messenger: Nyah Jahphet Anbassa I Sent: 2/20/2005 5:22:40 AM


Iman give thanks that the world saw this man Marcus Garvey. Give Thanks for his teachings... more fyah!
But I personally do not need Garvey as prophet to show me who HIM is, so it doesn't matter to me how Garvey thought about HIM... that's not the important thing about this to me. I see why Garvey said this, because he was too shortsighted as to see that the only victory over fascist rome was on the political battlefield... if Garvey would have seen HIM victory, he wouldn't have thought like this, for shure!


Messenger: Ras ElIjah Sent: 2/20/2005 5:43:00 AM

When I read Marcus Garvey writings, I see in his words how he himself is corrupted by Babylon because of history but in the struggle, never came to that overstanding. Garvey was not a RastafarI, but a man seeking JUSTICE for the African race. Which he himself did not fully suceed in doing but, made another mark in history that changed the tide of the future for certain members of the huMAN race. Do claim that you dont need Marcus Garvey to see Selassie I im afraid cant be true. Because history made us see Selassie I, Almighty comes to us to try to change are history for a better future. But as we see with all are great leaders, prophets and Almighty Jah, Babylon kills them physical form.

Ras ElIjah

Messenger: Dreadnut Sent: 2/20/2005 12:15:28 PM

Marcus did not carry this opinion his whole life. Let the words disappear and the actions speak.

Messenger: Dreadnut Sent: 2/20/2005 12:57:32 PM

And also, since when does a man have to be right in everything he says to be prophetical. I would rahter see him be right in his doing, being that actions speak louder than words. Marcus Garvey doesn't have to be right all the time, he is only a man. If not a prophet, then a freedon fighter. In either case removing specific opinion, what was his goal? To organize the lost minds and bodys of the afirkan people and take them back to afrika. That was his dream. Why? Because he loved his nations people. Everything he did and spoke was with the love of his nation. That is the example. The example is the love and persistence. Marcus Garvey had many thoughts and ideas, but if we look for all of them to be right, then we look for god in him. HE CAN"T ALWAYS BE RIGHT! GIVE HIM A BREAK! He loved his people with all of his heart and he fought for them, which is more than 75% of this world can say.

Why you want to fight Marcus Mossiah? If your not looking to fight him, then what was your goal in posting this? Do you wnat the Rastafari bredren to forget their ways and come follow yours, or what you deem to be better ways?

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