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Messenger: GARVEYS AFRICA Sent: 3/10/2019 12:47:07 AM
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Anyone explain why there is no evidence of Moses in Egypt? or of the mass exodus? And how Moses can write Exodus as we are told, and include his death in his writing?

Anyone explain the similarities between Abraham and Brahma and tell me if not a copy them copy? And then explain the verse 'Abraham is an allegory'

Can anyone explain why Egypt is portrayed as wicked at the alleged time of Moses which according to the dates would be circa the time of Ahmose - one of the greatest Pharoahs who liberated the Africans from the rule of the Hyksos..... why would we fight against this?

Can anyone explain the curse of Ham?

Why do the ancestors teach shared divinity between male and female - the essence of Ma'at - yet the Bible teaches Man is the head of the Woman?

Can anyone explain why the teachings of Paul are almost completely anti-Hebrew culture? 

Can anyone explain WHY these selected books are the TRUE books of the life of JC and not the books which were left out?
If the Kebra Negast was needed to clear up what was missed out of the Old Testament how do we know further research / books are not needed?

Can anyone explain why NOT one of the ideals within I Rasta livity are exclusive to the Bible yet still we claim it is a necessary part of this ya trod, given the confusion and in exclusivity 

This thread could have been an intelligent scholastic debate.


Messenger: GARVEYS AFRICASent: 1/11/2014 11:46:58 PM


finally what were the Ethiopians doing pre-Christianity in their magnificent Axumite empire?

Most black people use the bible originally as a source of identity as we had no history books. This is 2014 and I man say black people who want to know their identity and history - the bible is one of the least accurate sources for this. Please engage in study!


Messenger: RasTafarIWork Sent: 3/10/2019 12:53:53 AM
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Some1 said before:

And when Haile Selassie I puts a lot of emphasis and stresses the importance of something repeatedly, whether about the Bible or other things He Speaks, I think about it and try to Iverstand it, because I see how Wise and Great Haile Selassie I is and the fruitfulness of His Teachings. Haile Selassie I calls the Bible the rallying point for all humanity, and that is just one of the many Good things he said about it, so even if you don't want to read it, at least have enough respect to the Most High Haile Selassie I to not speak so disrespectfully about it and act like the people who still see the importance of it are not as advanced as you imagine you are.
Then:
Time will tell with the I them, but most people I see that go this route eventually start speaking against Haile Selassie I, or at least for some that have grown up with some teachings of respect they don't speak against HIM, but just stop dealing with HIM. This usually happens when they can no longer make excuses to themselves to involve Haile Selassie I in their thing because His Thinking is too different then theirs. And then some of them they come here and act like they are superior because they "moved past" Haile Selassie.

Creation cannot move ahead of The Creator!


Messenger: GARVEYS AFRICA Sent: 3/10/2019 12:58:58 AM
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Messenger: zion mountainSent: 1/12/2014 8:58:54 AM
Haile I Selassie I.
Let InI reason with love and light,no need for religion and division still.
I man not say InI shouldnt read the Bible,but to take it as all literal and as if its reality is what Iman against.Instead,InI read it more to find more hypocrisy of Rome to enslave InI.
Iman no just side any I just for the sake of siding,Iman search within for the truth.
Haile Selassie I is more real to InI than Jesus because I can see Him divinity not by a certain belief which actually has no evidence.
For instance,I can testify what I Majesty did to say Him Christ and I can also trace the Man's Istory and see,Ethiopia is the most Incient Empire of them all,but....my Idrens what about this Jesus,what did he do exactly???what about his Istory?
Its all myth...to say man walk pon water,man born of a virgin,does than solve anything,or does it have anything to do with humanity?These are just beliefs,but to say its real its folly.

As for the bible....aaah my Idrens hw can you defend this book?with all those lies and myths.
Can a boat(Noah's ark)with those dimensions carry every couple of every living creature?and you tell me Noah's family filled the whole earth.
You tell me with everything on this earth it was created in seven days of 24hrs each?Where was God when He was creating everything?Where did He come from?What was happening before He created everything?What about a big fish swallowing a man for three days and then spit him?

My Idrens....InI have been saying Rastafari is not a religion,but this is pure religion to believe in dat.Its mythology,you cant tell I all that I have mentioned before is true and real,yet I only mention a few.

And many of those words written in it was written suiting those people in those times.Like the law of Moses in the wilderness,like Paul's letters to the Corinthians,Romans etc,it suited those people,but now I man in this ya time after 500years of slavery,so definately so much has been changed about InI.
InI must search for Iself and for real,Haile Selassie is only InI link to I own past,not Jesus,not Moses,not Paul,not the Bible,only Haile Selassie I.

To say Haile Selassie I did this so I must do so is really getting the Inception right,so do we have to trim locks?do we have to abandon the hills to go to the Orthodox church?Do we have to stop chant Nyahbinghi?After all the Orthodox say one must denounce Selassie I to get baptised.So should we follow Haile Selassie I religion?
Haile Selassie is I only connection with I past,present and future.
InI see InI divinity through Haile Selassie I works not religion.

My fellow Black Idrens...remember were InI come from.InI has been changed in everything by these devils,so InI should reshape InI from the start again.

Its like a mobile phone,after being purchased by a buyer,and you look for that same phone after a long period after it was purchased,you would find that same phone would have changed in many ways,it will been installed many new applications and software and contacts,but will dat be the originality of that phone?No,those applications and software and ting were just installed by a user for own benefit.
The only way to get back the phone to its original is by resetting it default.
I think same as the mind of a Blackman


Messenger: GARVEYS AFRICASent: 1/12/2014 9:46:01 AM
RESET THE MINDSET!


Messenger: GARVEYS AFRICASent: 1/12/2014 5:20:09 PM
The effect of Jesus + Bible supernaturalism in Africa

http://allchristiannews.com/pastor-tries-to-walk-on-water-like-jesus-then-drowns-in-front-of-his-congregation/



Pastor Tries to Walk on Water Like Jesus, Then Drowns in Front of His Congregation

Walking on water is not easy. Not too many people have the ability. Let’s see, there’s Jesus, and well, that’s about it. Unfortunately for one pastor on the West Coast of Africa, his attempt to become the second man to make this impossible feat a reality cost him his life.

Pastor Franck Kabele, 35, told his congregation that he was capable of reenacting the very miracles of Jesus Christ. He decided to make it clear through way of demonstration on Gabon’s beach in the capital city of Libreville.

Referencing Matthew 14:22-33, Kabele said that he received a revelation which told him that with enough faith he could achieve what Jesus was able to.

According to an eyewitness, Kabele took his congregation out to the beach. He told them that he would cross the Kombo estuary by foot, which is normally a 20 minute boat ride.

Sadly by the second step into the water Kabele found himself completely submerged. He never returned.

This is not the first incident of this nature in Africa. At Ibadon zoo in south-west Nigeria, a self-proclaimed Prophet claimed to be able to do what the Daniel of the bible did by walking into a den full of lions.

Though he was warned numerous times by zoo keepers, according to NG Newspapers, the Prophet thought of them as nothing more than enemies of progress. The Prophet, with a crowd of people watching, put on a long red robe and proceeded to enter the cage full of lions.

Within seconds of opening the door, the lions ripped the Prophet from flesh to bone. The bible should come with a warning label, “Don’t try this at home.”

Barry is a scholar, who enjoys writing, arithmetic and politics. Reach him @ Barryburchjr@gmail.com 


Messenger: RasTafarIWork Sent: 3/10/2019 1:20:33 AM
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Its that kind of despise of JC and mokery of bible that is against HIM's convictions.


Messenger: GARVEYS AFRICA Sent: 3/10/2019 1:29:22 AM
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Messenger: VoodooRuutzSent: 6/9/2014 3:44:10 AM
Fatrue GA, so many are "religious Rastafari", they sight Rastafari in religious ways tho not verbally, jus as some tell mi say Islam ain no religion it's a way of life. Same way many will say Rasta is a livity but deal purely religiously in it and hold to a certain "religion" jus in a Rastafari cloak, as a "Black/Africanize Christianity" or a "new" or "true" Christianity. 



Messenger: GARVEYS AFRICASent: 7/19/2014 11:12:32 AM
My people have been enslaved with bible doctrine for the past 500 years. Black people are heavy........heavvvvvvily into the bible. Mostly as FundaMENTAList.

So piece by piece, every fally or aftack on Africa either in the text or within the common interpretation will be exposed. 

.....


2014 Haile Selassie say who is to put down the bible fe put down bible. This isnt 1960. Our Knowledge and overstanding of God has evolved. Thank Jah. We can now categorically cut through the bs
We gone further than the Catholic priest whe taught His Majesty.


You say its belittling but thats why its in this thread instead of randomly posted around the forum. So one has to question the intentions of a person who is inna the bible and who clicks a thread entitled so, wha dem expect to see other than Fire?



Lol


Messenger: RasTafarIWork Sent: 3/10/2019 1:33:35 AM
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Earlier, it was said:
"Time will tell with the I them, but most people I see that go this route eventually start speaking against Haile Selassie I, or at least for some that have grown up with some teachings of respect they don't speak against HIM, but just stop dealing with HIM. This usually happens when they can no longer make excuses to themselves to involve Haile Selassie I in their thing because His Thinking is too different then theirs. And then some of them they come here and act like they are superior because they "moved past" Haile Selassie."
Later, it was said:
"I have no problem with this speech you provided from his majesty. The bible was a rallying point......
Rasta gone beyond bible now and a no me one."
This shows who we really are.


Messenger: GARVEYS AFRICA Sent: 3/10/2019 3:30:51 AM
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Your quote comes from Ark i, thinking because of I none stereotypical ideology I would soon give up I trod not knowing I born into this trod as a multi generational Rastafari. Since then he has cut his locks and walks different

You can't challenge I meds

Most people such as yourself only know of the stereotypical Rastafari ideology through. Commercialism so I cannot judge you too tuff




Messenger: GARVEYS AFRICA Sent: 3/10/2019 3:34:18 AM
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Messenger: KnowThySelf333Sent: 9/28/2015 9:12:30 PM
Yeah Garveys Africa thats exactly my thoughts.

This is another big problem with the bible.The many mistranslations,misinterpretations etc.
Even when you look at the gospels there are many differences in every gospel.Was christ hanged on a tree or crucified?...

Some have argued that theres no problem with the bible itself but with the interpretation of the one who reads it.
I think this may apply to some things but not all.For example saying that jesus was a homosexual because of the suspicious naked youth mentioned in marks gospel is one of those arguments wich may be based on the readers interpretation as this doesnt necessarily mean jesus was gay.

But then there are too many things wich are not open to debate as misinterpretation of the reader but can only be seen for what it is and no other way.Like bible God commanding the killing of children and women and other nations,eating shit etc.
All these things have nothing to do with interpretation of the reader becasue thats exactly what is written.

Now if these things are a further misinterpretation of the writers is another argument.But then why even bother spending so much time and energy on contemplating what is and isnt a mistranslation or misinterpretation if there are so many other good sources of wisdom and knowledge.

I see Kemet as a very good source of wisdom.
And many indigenous peoples around the world have much wisdom to offer too.



Messenger: KnowThySelf333Sent: 10/25/2015 7:52:04 PM
But clearly the emperor is not a blind follower of religious doctrine.There are things he did and said that show that he didnt obey whatever the bible said neither agreed with all of its message.

The emperor is a christian but he never turned the other cheek when attacked by europe,he fought back.

He would never look down on other paths or consider people who worship idols as 'heathen' who deserve death.No,he said that everyone has the right to worship as they please.

Another example is wealth being considered evil and the camel walking through a needle hole thing...
Wich again is contrary to what he said about wealth and himself being on the ethiopian money at that time.

Just think about all the harm and all the slavery religion and bible has been used for in history and still is used to divide and conquer.

We cannot hide or try to justify the wickedness in the bible.
A God who hardens pharaos heart to show his miracolous power by slaying innocent babies is not the God that anyone can consider a blessed God if we are to be honest to ourselves.

To me Rastafari is not necessarily related to anything biblical or religious.I see it as a cause of much confusion among people.


peace.


Messenger: Nesta1 Sent: 3/10/2019 3:35:52 AM
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RasTafarIWork,
I have a five-year-old daughter (my sixth child) and am reminded of this truth all the time: There is no way to reason right-headedness to a rebellious child engaged in willful defiance of his/her parent. This is analogous to a RatsafarI who is willfully disrespectful of His Majesty's Christian faith and guidance. There's no need for that. One can have a differing viewpoint without "burning" this and that. But children feel the need to go to extremes that mature people know are unnecessary.


"Well, I've been a Rasta from ever since. You know. But, is not how long I've been a Rasta, is how long it takes you to grow up."
-- Bob Marley (who demonstrated how some Rastas can be much more "grown up" in their mid-30s than others in their mid-50s)


Messenger: GARVEYS AFRICA Sent: 3/10/2019 5:28:59 AM
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Nesta you will always be the child of black people and original Rastafari


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