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Messenger: Ark I Sent: 11/4/2008 9:53:53 AM

Colin Powell worked under Ronald Reagan, George Bush Senior, Bill Clinton, George Bush Junior and now Obama.

He has a long history with both parties.

Ark I
Itinual Praises unto Jah RasTafarI Haile Selassie I Menen I

Messenger: Prince Hotep Sent: 11/4/2008 10:44:58 AM

Some of us believe that this slave race of ours will live in the United States of America and in the future again become law makers for the white race (our slave masters of sixty years ago). Nothing of the kind has happened in all human history. There is not one instance where a slave race living in the same country (within the same bounds as the race of masters that enslaved them and being in numbers less than the race of masters) has ever yet ruled and governed the masters. It has never been so in history, and it will never be so in the future. The hidden spirit of America is determined that it shall never be, caring not what hopes and promises we get.

Marcus Garvey words, the Greatest Prophet.

Holy Emmanuel I Selassie I JAH Ras Tafar I

Messenger: Jah Bird Sent: 11/4/2008 2:03:30 PM

The first film might be childish, but i thought to be bring a little humor on this subject.
For the rest, who ever wins this election as said before there is no one to rule for the glory of the people, It will (in my view)be only for the glory of the usa.
Personally i don't care is Obama wins of mccain, what the future hold is written and showing.For I and I RastafarI as Ras said we have a KING.
But still for those who do not sight RAstafarI YET it will give the "minority" a spirit of selfconfidence that has be bashed away for a long time.
All the children of Africa will sight this and hopefully they might say A black man is a president of America, if i do good in school and fight my way up i might have a future of being someone instead of what they told me - you are notting.
The second film - Dick Gregory was speaking of the truth and i wanted to share it with I and I.

No disrespect


Messenger: Ras Sistren Khamyl Sent: 11/5/2008 12:05:49 AM

Colin Powell worked under Ronald Reagan, George Bush Senior, Bill Clinton, George Bush Junior and now Obama.

He has a long history with both parties.

Arl I, is this not more evidence that there is only one party.

To Jah Bird, I hope young people are not that naive that they believe what you suggest.


Messenger: Jah Bird Sent: 11/5/2008 2:56:50 AM

Illiteracy refers to the inability of an individual to read, write or use basic computational skills. The illiteracy rate for America is 23 percent of adult Americans which in figures is equivalent to 44 million men and women.

Here's a list of adult literacy rates of African countries and the census year. Since most of them are outdated, in most cases the literacy rates have increased over the years. But according to this list, the top 5 African countries with the highest adult literacy rate:

1 - Seychelles - 91.8% (2002 est.)
2 - Zimbabwe - 90.7%(2003 est.)
3 - South Africa - 86.4% (2003 est.)
4 - Kenya - 85.1% (2003 est.)
5 - Namibia - 85% (2001 est.)

Hoop those people go back or start scjool in stead of selling drugs or being prostitutes or what not.
If people can read and right ot is progress. Then one can read bout the history etc, i don't need to explain this to the I. The I knows it well,

Messenger: Ras Sistren Khamyl Sent: 11/5/2008 8:45:45 AM

I don't see the relevance of Jah Bird's previous post to the statement I made. Am I overlQQking something?

I was making reference to your idea that the youth should believe that, "if they do good in school, they will be somebody". I contend that they are already somebody and the idea that doing good in school is the source of socialized conditioning that has so many people walking around in a trance, sleeping, buying in to that American dream that is only believable if you are subconscious to begin with.

I have been an educator for over 20 years and I can tell you with great certainty that the purpose of public education is to promote democracy by training people to function as docile participants in a wicked society. It sure is not to create independent thinkers who critically analyze situations down to their roots and origins and apply the basic principles of righteousness to make decisions.

If you doubt the validity of what I am saying and you need "book" proof, open any Foundations of Education textbook from any college or university that has a teacher education department and read the first paragraph.

A lot of times, I believe the readers of this forum think I am stating opinions that can be supported with evidence, when I am in fact stating facts that can be proven.


Sidenote: Functional Illiteracy is an oxymoron!

Messenger: Jah Bird Sent: 11/5/2008 10:06:16 AM

One does not have to got to school, education is in many forms. I should have written that more clearly. I stated the example of A black president is because many many children are waisting thier lives in useless and vain things, because (maybe lack of mentorship)and someone to look up to.NOt to be the president of america but to educated themself, to think big of themself and not less. it could trigger some young people to do that.
Just like so many africans is amaerica changed their lives after Malcom X, Dr,King,etc.Just like that hopefully this could lead to change the trance of the youth that they are in.
the I wrote:
"It sure is not to create independent thinkers who critically analyze situations down to their roots and origins and apply the basic principles of righteousness to make decisions."
I agree totally, but one has to be able to read and write especially read and filter what is right and wrong. RastafarI here are educated, which gives the abiltiy to analyze situations and use that to make righteous decisions.

I Raspect the I for being educator for so many years and i do not doubt what the i is saying.

If i am wrong i stay corrected.

Messenger: Ras Sistren Khamyl Sent: 11/5/2008 10:13:07 AM

To Jah Bird

I must admit that with my formal education and independent learning, I still have to use discretionary measure to avoid jumping to conclusions that are not the intent of many of the posts from the idren. This just means that we all must be more diligent about making sure we ovastand each other. I enjoy the experience.


Messenger: Ark I Sent: 11/5/2008 4:48:11 PM

I would like to gratulate-the-cons of the DemoCrapublicans for their propaganda victory. As seen in the news report below, the Obama-McCain campaign was very successful.

It will be interesting to see all the change, although I don't think people will be getting the change they expected.

Ark I

Itinual Praises unto Jah RasTafarI Haile Selassie I Menen I

Associated Press
By SHARON COHEN 3 hours ago

Crowds danced in the streets, wept, lifted their voices in prayer and brought traffic to a standstill. From the nation's capital to Atlanta to Los Angeles, Americans celebrated Barack Obama's victory and marveled that they lived to see the day that a black man was elected president.

Jubilation stretched into the early morning Wednesday in Washington, where a large crowd paraded on Pennsylvania Avenue with drums, balloons and a life-size cutout of Obama.

By 4 a.m., a few young revelers lingered among the reviewing stands being built for January's presidential inauguration.

"I heard that he won and I instinctively came here," said Hollis Gentry, 45, who lives about six blocks away. "I came down here to make a prayer ... that we'll be able to change the nation and the world."

In New York City's Harlem neighborhood, Thomasina Wright started Wednesday with a smile. "I'm way happy," she said. "It means that I can tell my seven grandchildren that they have a chance to be president."

"I have hope for several reasons. I hope for everybody including my nephews. They can have a higher rank in America," newspaper vendor Miguel Estrada said Wednesday on a Harlem street. "I hope for America, changing."

Earlier in Detroit, carloads of celebrants rolled past the bronze sculpture of prizefighter Joe Louis' fist, blaring their horns and chanting "Obama!" out of open windows.

"The history, the struggle, it's been a long time," said Cheryl Stephenson, 48. "People are hurting, not just black people. I think we're ready to take a chance.

"We went from `Yes, we can' to `Yes, we did.'"

Sarah Geels wept big, slow tears at an Obama victory celebration in St. Louis.

"It's overwhelming," said Geels, 32, a community college librarian. "I just can't believe it. It's too good to be true. There soon will be a drastic improvement in this country."

In Philadelphia, thousands of blacks and whites converged at City Hall shortly after Obama was declared the winner. Under light rain, they danced to the music blaring from car radios. Drivers stopped in the middle of the street, opened their car doors and broadcast Obama's acceptance speech.

"Barack is in the house!" shouted Pamela Williams, 46. "This is very important to me. Change is about to happen."

At Sadiki's restaurant in Philadelphia, the celebration poured out onto the sidewalk.

"Our parents left this planet thinking that we would never, ever see this day, when an African-American could be elected by all the people to the highest seat in the land," said Bernard Smalley Sr. His wife, Jacquelyn, wept.

The celebrations were both large big and small, but the sentiment was the same pure joy over how far the country has come. People honked horns, high-fived each other and embraced.

"I was born in the civil rights time. To see this happening is unbelievable. We've got the first black president. A black president!" said Mike Louis, a 53-year-old black man who got teary-eyed as he watched the election results on a giant video board in Cincinnati's Fountain Square. "It's not cured now, but this is a step to curing this country of racism. This is a big, giant step toward getting this country together."

Elsewhere, some Americans were wary, but hopeful. In Iowa, Sam Gipple, 60, said he voted for John McCain because he worries Obama lacks the experience he needs to be an effective leader.

"I'd give him a chance, and hope he keeps some of the good promises he made," said Gipple, the transportation director for Iowa County.

Raymond Stroud, 63, of Little Rock, Ark., considers himself a conservative and supported McCain barely. He called the Republican "probably the lesser of two evils."

But in Cleveland, Obama supporters were ready to celebrate. Some gathered at a house party and held champagne flutes above their heads for a toast. "To the first African-American president in the history of the United States!" they shouted.

In Chicago, Obama's hometown, an estimated 125,000 people gathered in unusually warm weather to greet the senator at a delirious victory rally at Grant Park.

"It's fantastic," said Hulon Johnson, 71, a retired Chicago public school principal. "I've always told my kids this was possible; now they'll have to believe me."

LaKeisha Williams, a 27-year-old laid-off school nurse, watched Obama's victory on a TV in a downtown Kansas City concert hall.

"People actually have finally come together and realized that no matter what his race is, he was the right person for the job," she said. "I think it was destiny for him to win. But now we still have to come together to make sure things work."

In Miami's predominantly black Liberty City neighborhood, Otoria Pitts, 30, suggested the significance of Obama's victory goes beyond race.

"His election speaks volumes for a bunch of people," she said. "Children of single mothers, people who put themselves through college. It says, you can do it, you can do it."

Joined by her sister, Susan, and niece, Akira, the three women bought a few rockets from a fireworks stand and lit up the night sky with color.

On the other side of the country, others were thinking how Obama's election could change their lives.

"I'm ecstatic," said Jason Samm, a 33-year-old business owner who was celebrating in South Los Angeles. "I have three kids, which means a lot of doors opening up for them."

Obama's victory also brought back memories of hard-fought battles of generations past.

At Atlanta's Ebenezer Baptist Church, where the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr. preached, Rep. John Lewis, a civil rights hero, said he was hardly able to believe that 40 years after he was left beaten and bloody on an Alabama bridge as he marched for the right for blacks to vote, he had cast a ballot for Obama.

"This is a great night," he said. "It is an unbelievable night. It is a night of thanksgiving."

As the news of a projected Obama victory flashed across a TV screen, men in the nearly all-black crowd pumped their fists and bowed their heads. Women wept and embraced their children. Screams of "Thank you, Lord!" were heard throughout the sanctuary.

Surveying the scene, Mattie Bridgewater whispered from her seat, "I just can't believe it. Not in my lifetime."

The teacher said she went to the same elementary school as Emmett Till, the boy from Chicago whose murder in Mississippi was one of the catalysts of the civil rights movement. Both she and her 92-year-old mother voted for Obama.

"I'm sitting here in awe," she said. "This is a moment in history that I just thank my God I was allowed to live long enough to see. Now, when I tell my students they can be anything they want to be, that includes president of the United States."


Messenger: Ras Sistren Khamyl Sent: 11/5/2008 5:42:10 PM

I've heard similar stuff all day at work today. Finally I started answering people with a question that left them speechless, "what does this specifically mean to you?"

Not one solitary soul could answer it.


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