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Question for white skinned people who want to live in Africa.

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Messenger: Bro Dominiq Yehyah Anbesa Sent: 10/16/2006 1:16:52 PM
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Ises

Yes, there is nothing that could be said against that.

Burn out all whiteman mentality!

R over X
Selah


Messenger: Ark I Sent: 10/16/2006 9:47:18 PM
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The reason I asked this question is because the downpressors that came to the Americas felt they were so important that they could just reap from another man's land and even worse, they felt they were so important that they could even murder and rape the First Nations people that were the original caretakers of this American land and they continue to downpress them to this day. And they felt they were so important that they could destroy so many African families and bring slaves to build and reap for them, so the Africans would give them the strength to take so much from this land they stole. But these same thieves don't seem to think that others should have this same right as theirs (not even those who they stole this land from), and they think that this land they stole now belongs to them (so they say, but RasTafarI knows who He assigned to have dominion over this land). The only kinds of people who they have given this thievery privilege to are people who bring them profit by downpressing and stealing another man's land, and they support these thieves with weapons, money and all kinds of things, as long as they continue to bring them profit.

These same thieves have also behaved the same way in Africa, Asia, Australia, Europe. Murdering and downpressing any people who they were able, just so they can pile up more on top of plenty.

Many white people who have gone and in the future are going to Africa feel they have a right to another man's land and they freely admit that they will fight those who oppose their thievery and downpression. And many others who have gone and are going in the future, first through their naivety and lack of knowledge of theirself think that they will respect the other man and the other man's land, and initially they do. But after they get comfortable and have invested some years or decades in their "discovered" land and have aged and grown into the ways of their forefathers, they change their mind and are just as wicked as the admitted thieves and murderers I spoke about at the start of this paragraph.

History shows both these kinds of people over and over again, and prophesy shows more to come. It is not just white people who are like this, but this question I wrote is for white people.



Africa for the Africans.



Here are some reasoning I made in the past about this.

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Africans were stolen from their land and their land was robbed and raped to a point where things are very hard now in Africa. Africans have been spread abroad and oppressed throughout the world. Africans have a right to their own nation and Babylon must stop abusing their nation and people.

I don't believe that any white man belongs in Africa, unless Africans as a whole invites that white man to join them. I am white, so I don't have the intention to go to live in Africa because it is not my continent, it belongs to the Africans.

Yes, it is true that everyone lived in Africa at some point. But the white man chose to leave Africa and populate other parts of the world a very long time ago.

I know some white people that feel repatriation belongs to them as well. But to I, this attitude looks too similar to something I have seen before. White people felt that they "discovered" the Americas, even though the First Nations people already lived there, and were farming the land for food. But these whites felt that it belonged to them and they had a right to be there, even more of a right then the First Nations.

So they killed the First Nations people, robbed and raped their land and then brought Africans over to build up another man's land for themselves.

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So as Marcus Garvey say,
13 We believe in the freedom of Africa for the Negro people of the world, and by the principle of Europe for the Europeans and Asia for the Asiatics; we also demand Africa for the Africans at home and abroad.

14. We believe in the inherent right of the Negro to possess himself of Africa, and that his possession of same shall not be regarded as an infringement on any claim or purchase made by any race or nation.

15. We strongly condemn the cupidity of those nations of the world who, by open aggression or secret schemes, have seized the territories and inexhaustible natural wealth of Africa, and we place on record our most solemn determination to reclaim the treasures and possession of the vast continent of our forefathers.

16. We believe all men should live in peace one with the other, but when races and nations provoke the ire of other races and nations by attempting to infringe upon their rights, war becomes inevitable, and the attempt in any way to free one's self or protect one's rights or heritage becomes justifiable.

Full speech,
Declaration of Rights of the Negro Peoples
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I know that times have changed and the dynamics of the world are different then they were 2000 years ago. I and I as a world people should learn to live in peace with eachother and be able to live in the same village with all different races, with equality. But it is not a right of the white man to live in Africa, it is a privilege that can only be granted by Africans.

Ark I
RasTafarI
Haile Selassie I


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After some other reasonings in the forum, I Itinued to say,



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Some people learn some of the ways of RasTafarI and learn the things that RasTafarI Idren and Sistren say, but they look past the reasons for the ways and the reasons for what is said.

RasTafarI people don't speak of Repatriation for Africans to Africa because they decided to pick Africa out of all the places of the world because Africa is some special place that people must go to.

RasTafarI people speak of Repatriation of Africans to Africa because Africa is the home of Africans. I and I are speaking for the Ones that were taken away from Africa and used as Slaves in the West. I and I are speaking of returning a people to the Home they were taken from.

The role of all RasTafarI people(of all colour) is to Live by the example of Jah RasTafarI. I and I are also the Ones sent to Chant and Rise in the Spiritual heights and perform the works of the seals opened by RasTafarI. I and I are also the Ones who speak and chant for Repatriation of Africans to Africa. I and I also speak and chant in support of all the downpressed in the world and speak and chant against all the downpressors. One example is that I and I don't speak about the First Nations(Indian) people being Repatriated to Africa. I and I speak and chant for the First Nations people to have the control of their land (North America) returned to them.

The example that Fiyahbun said about people setting up a tent on your property is a good example. How many of the people on this forum who own property would allow this "because the person setting up the tent has a right to live anywhere"? And some of the people who don't own property but live on their parent's property may not be able to give an honest answer to this question because some people are more generous about things that belong to others (ie. parents). But their sound changes when they are the ones that worked 5 or more days a week to pay for the property.

And to put it in perspective, the original people of a country have worked for centuries to take care of their country.

Here is a little something Selassie I spoke about respecting frontiers.



Accept Frontiers

At Addis Ababa enough was said to demonstrate beyond doubt that Africans are virtually unanimous in their agreement that only by acceptance of the frontiers bequeathed to them by the colonialists can permanent peace reign on our continent. The principle of respect for the territorial integrity of states is repeated in the OAU's Charter no less than three times, and it is only for us to observe it as scrupulously as it deserves. Ethiopia supports this view, although she herself suffered no less than others from the depredations of the imperialists.

We must, however, go still further. The Charter has accurately and adequately defined the principles to which we have pledged our adherence. Africans, however, like all other peoples possess not only virtues but weaknesses and it is perhaps inevitable that differences will arise among us from time to time. Just as Africa, as a single entity, and the several African states individually toil for the peaceful settlement of disputes among states, so must we ensure that disputes in Africa are settled peacefully. If our continent is not free of internecine strife, how can we hope to influence others whose disputes endanger the peace of the world?

In like manner, the Charter's signatories have declared their adherence to the complementary principle of non-interference in the internal affairs of other states and this principle, too, must be rigidly observed if conflict between Africans are to be avoided. It is all too often under the guise of territorial disputes and through the medium of subversive activity directed against legitimate governments that the foreign influences which we seek to bar from our continent endeavour to exert their power and establish for themselves a foothold from which to expand their activities. We must guard against the insidious substitution of one form of dominance and rule for another; we must be vigilant to inhibit the growth of what is called neo-colonialism.

O.A.U. Summit, Cairo



When Selassie I said, "the foreign influences which we seek to bar from our continent" He wasn't speaking about not allowing any foreigners into the country, his example of working with people of other countries and accepting foreigners into Ethiopia shows this. But he was speaking against foreigners influencing the movements of Ethiopia in ways not permitted by Ethiopia. Selassie I had immigration laws and He never allowed anybody to become an Ethiopian citizen just because they wanted to. They had to be given permission.


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Reasoning written in Rasta Nick's Forum
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Ark I
RasTafarI
Haile Selassie I


Messenger: Ras Sistren Khamyl Sent: 10/17/2006 9:54:58 AM
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Very interesting reasoning. If nothing more, it makes us think.

It should be noted, and I think you touched on this, that there are some Afrikans who don't belong in Afrika, because they have adopted the ways of the downpressor.

RSK


Messenger: White dread Sent: 10/17/2006 10:38:46 AM
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Just a humble question.

"It should be noted, and I think you touched on this, that there are some Afrikans who don't belong in Africa, because they have adopted the ways of the downpressor."

If a non-Afrikan has adopted the lifestyle of africans, is is okay for them live there? Iman don;t want to make a statement. Iman just want to hear the I's opinion


Messenger: Ras Sistren Khamyl Sent: 10/20/2006 10:49:27 AM
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If a non-Afrikan has adopted the lifestyle of africans, is is okay for them live there?

I think until the Afrikan has reunited amoung him/herself, NO. If the non-Afrikan adopts the lifestyle of africans, he/she can contribute to his/her own on his/her own homeland. The question is, will the downpressor allow his/her existence?

RSK

And I'm not exactly solid on this opinion. I'd luv 2 hear more.


Messenger: FarI-Sight Sent: 10/21/2006 5:19:08 AM
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Blessed Love to all

Honour and Majesty unto the Honourable Ark I.Keep up the good words and the works so that others may see the righteous example and the glory of God through the Man.
I and I have been awaiting for Ones to come and reason uprightly so that it may be a light to others who come here as the Word is the most powerful element.

I and I Chant Freedom Redemption Repatriation so that all may be returned to their own vine and fig tree, Jah say that is the Only way to achieve International Peace and Security. First of All Africa for the Africans, Europe for the Europeans, Jamaica and small islands for the Arawaks, America for the Native Indians, China for the Chinese, India for the Indians and Australia for the Custodian Owners.

Until such fulfilmant there will always be war through there is no justice for peace to reign and to achieve justice one must find back the love of God, only then will ones find a love of the next one and will not inflict evil on them as the will see their Self in the next Man. Unity is the basis of life.

The aim of EABIC is to bring each one to a Right of them Self.

Ps 82 states the whole earth is out of course, Jah Rastafari come to restore order as the Earth;s Rightful Ruler He come to rule with Equity and Justice, let Righteousness cover the Earth as water cover the sea, the meek shall inherit the earth and enjoy the abundance of peace.

The Black Majesty of the Heavens of the Earth, He plant His foot upon the Sea and Rideth upon the Storm, The Father of Life,
Haile I King Selassie I, Jah Rastafari
Holy Emmanuel I, Selassie I Jah Rastafari


Messenger: Ras Sistren Khamyl Sent: 10/22/2006 12:37:06 PM
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Afta meditation, me heart say

ONE LUV

If mankind no connect, why say it? When mankind become 1, the earth will be 1, 1 continent, 1 God, 1 Aim, 1 destiny, truly 1 luv

RSK


Messenger: JahIseek Sent: 10/23/2006 8:07:22 AM
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ISES....

"one love" CANNOT EXIST until BALANCE has been RESTORED - until AFRIKA IS GIVEN HER JUST DUE - until her children have been HEALED from the wicked wounds ... UNTIL that day when AFRIKANS will be honored as ORIGINAL MON AND WOMBMON, OVERSTAND they are master builders and CREATORS of IRATION. Until that day..

NO - ONE CANNOT sweep what has been done (and I-TINUES to be done) under the rug and expect (or demand) LOVE from those that have EVERY RIGHT to be suspicious DUE TO THE HISTORY and the NATURE of MOST white people. THE FACTS are there plain to see and no arguing about that.

FIYAH for those that REFUSE to FIGHT FOR RIGHT.. Which is JUSTICE and EQUALITY!

ALL HONOR AND ISES TO IANDI BLACK GOD AND KING
HAILE SELASSIE Ist
JAH RAS TAFARI!
SELAH!

Sis Jahseekah


Messenger: Ras Sistren Khamyl Sent: 10/23/2006 9:24:19 AM
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never insenuated that the wrong doings be covered or minimized

RSK


Messenger: SisMenenI Sent: 10/30/2006 3:06:35 AM
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Ises Haile I Sellassie I and Empress Menen!

Sis Jahseekah really brought this reasoning the necessary clarity and the necessary fyah.

The reasoning reminds me of the circumstances that have taken place in the past, like that of the Idi Amin times. First I would say that I do not agree with death what so ever, and would not condone the murder of people. Unfortunately this is what occured under Idi Amin's rule.

To respond to Ark-I's reasoning, I'd agree with my sistren that Africa for the Africans and if Africa is to be so kind as to let white people live on the land then the white people must be focused on doing something for Africa, genuinely and honestly, and particularly economically. Not just living off of her. And if asked to leave, then must leave asap on the basis of Africa for the Africans and respect for this Icept.

There is a movie out called "The Constant Gardener" which is a very good example of why Aficans cannot trust Europeans.

blessed


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